Talk:Safari

Baobab completion

So, no scoring at all when a baobab is completed? Just two tokens when it's started,and two when finished. I can see consistency with paths and bush in not scoring the number of tiles, as is done for cloisters in standard game, but I'd expected to see scoring table as for paths and bush, with possible addition, as hinted at in ref, to the use of additional animal tokens --Wolnic (talk) 22:07, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes, there is explicit statement in the manual that player gets no points that I have missed. I have added this sentence. --MajFrost (talk) 18:37, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

If the player scores no points for completing the baobab, the implication could be that there is no score to boost by using the two received waterhole tokens. --Wolnic (talk) 22:32, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

The same tile that completes baobab could also complete other feature belonging to the same player. --MajFrost (talk) 06:30, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Ah, OK. Have modified the footnote to clarify, and removed some of the other text. --Wolnic (talk) 08:57, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Who gets tokens for baobab

Are the 2 end tokens awarded to the player *on the baobab tile*, or the player that *completes the feature* by placing the last tile?

I think it is pretty clear in the example. I think it is clear across whole manual that it is not important who place the tile, but who occupies the feature. --MajFrost (talk) 18:54, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Final Scoring for animal tokens

Is that "in the player's supply"?

Yes. I have removed the reference and added "from his supply" to the sentence. --MajFrost (talk) 18:54, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Scoring waterhole

Is it tokens or different species? Both words are used.

I do not see those words in current version. In general it does not matter. Players/Players get 3 points for whole waterhole. --MajFrost (talk) 18:54, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

It states tokens in the main body, but species in the example description. plus it states in the Special Case that when creating a new waterhole diagonally opposite an existing one, that this situation can lead to the same species being present on the same waterhole when it is completed. --Wolnic (talk) 22:26, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Ok, it is not scoring, but in tile placement. I have corrected example to follow german manual. It states token there.

There is still the explicit reference commenting on the presence of the two giraffe tokens in a diagonally created waterhole. --Wolnic (talk) 09:06, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Species are important in the way, that no two species can be in the same waterhole. In exception to the case when first two are placed diagonally (not touching each other). --MajFrost (talk) 19:47, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to keep coming back to the same point. Nowhere that I can see in the page, as it stands at the moment (unless I'm blind to it), does it state that "no two species can be in the same waterhole" or that "when expanding a waterhole by placing an adjacent animal tile it must be a different species to one already present", only that animal tiles can be used to expand a waterhole, and that a different number of points is scored depending on whether it's the 2nd, 3rd or 4th "token" placed on the waterhole. --Wolnic (talk) 22:13, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Sure, this is what the discussion page is for. To discuss. I am not sure how that have had happened, but I have missed that point... It is in place. --MajFrost (talk) 10:00, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I think Footnote 10 which refers to this inconsistency can probably be removed now ... --Wolnic (talk) 10:16, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Ranger clarification

When placing a tile where Ranger is, the rule says can move the Ranger, but I think it should be must. Otherwise, what do you do with the Ranger?

Yes, "must". Corrected. --MajFrost (talk) 18:54, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Waterhole creation

Clarification required in text that a player can't place a waterhole unless they have a meeple available in their supply? As this comes before scoring a completed feature, the player can't score, get a meeple back, and then place it on the waterhole.

Yes, I think consistent with every other Carc and clear in the manual. Also visible in summary. We can put some note in "special cases" section if there are opinions that it is not clear enough. Or add annotation in summary next to "place a meeple".

Summary at end

• It states that Ranger is removed to player supply, but not that it is placed back after all other actions, only moved if no meeple placed.

Score points for starting a waterhole, or moving the ranger are missing. I realise these are not "Scoring a Feature" which tends to be when it is completed, but do we want to include them here, or would it get too messy? --Wolnic (talk) 08:55, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

• I understand that it may feel confusing, as player may also get points in meeple placing phase, for starting waterhole. It is clearly stated that this happens immediately.

Scoring for ranger happens in scoring phase and it is listed in its section.

Above two are not listed in summary. I have added those there. --MajFrost (talk) 20:00, 29 October 2018 (UTC)