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{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
! rowspan="2" |   || colspan="5" | C1 || colspan="2" | C2
! rowspan="2" colspan="2" |   || colspan="4" | C1 || colspan="2" | C2
|-
|-
! Pre-Big Box (HiG)
! Pre-Big Box (HiG)
! Pre-Big Box (RGG)
! Pre-Big Box (RGG / ZMG)
! Latest rules (HiG)
! Latest rules (HiG)
! Latest rules (RGG)
! Latest rules (RGG / ZMG)
! Latest rules (ZMG)
! Latest rules (HiG)
! Latest rules (HiG)
! Latest rules (ZMG)
! Latest rules (ZMG)
|-
|-
| starting player  
| rowspan="3" width="12.5%" | '''Base Game'''
| youngest player decides
| width="12.5%" | '''starting player'''
| youngest player decides
| width="12.5%" | youngest player decides
| youngest player decides
| width="12.5%" |youngest player decides
| any method agreed upon by all
| width="12.5%" |youngest player decides
| any method agreed upon by all
| width="12.5%" |any method agreed upon by all
| any method agreed upon by all
| width="12.5%" |any method agreed upon by all
| any method agreed upon by all
| width="12.5%" |any method agreed upon by all
|-
| '''"small city" rule'''
| no
| yes
| no
| no
| no
| no
|-
| '''farmer scoring'''
| 3rd edition
| 1st edition
| 3rd edition
| 3rd edition
| 3rd edition
| 3rd edition
|-
| rowspan="2"  | '''Exp. 2 - Traders & Builders'''
| '''2nd tile (double turn)'''
| drawn immediately
| drawn immediately
| drawn after scoring
| drawn after scoring
| drawn after scoring
| drawn after scoring
|-
| '''builders & pigs'''
| are followers
| are followers
| are not followers
| are not followers
| are not followers
| are not followers
|-
| rowspan="6"  | '''Exp. 3 - The Princess & the Dragon'''
| '''volcano / fairy'''
| cannot move fairy
| cannot move fairy
| can move fairy
| can move fairy
| can move fairy
| can move fairy
|-
| '''volcano / deployment'''
| cannot deploy follower, builder, or pig
| cannot deploy follower, builder, or pig
| cannot deploy any figure to the tile <ref>
{{IconBook}}
As noted in the rules, a player may deploy a barn, play a tower piece, or place a follower on the Wheel of Fortune.
</ref>
| cannot deploy follower, builder, or pig
| cannot deploy follower, builder, or pig
| cannot deploy follower, builder, or pig
|-
| '''magic portal to unscored feature'''
| yes (no in FAQ)
| no
| no
| no
| no
| no
|-
| '''princess tile'''
| must remove knight or builder
| must remove knight or builder
| ''may'' remove follower
| must remove follower
| must remove follower
| must remove follower
|-
| '''princess / big follower'''
| can only remove if last follower in city (FAQ)
| same as normal follower (implicit)
| same as normal follower
| same as normal follower
| same as normal follower
| same as normal follower
|-
| '''the dragon moves'''
| before scoring (FAQ)
| ?
| before scoring
| after scoring (RGG) <ref>
{{IconWorld}}
It seems a mistranslation by RGG of the original HiG rules. Big Box 3 written rules indicate the dragon moves after scoring but the turn sequence summary instructs to move the dragon before scoring. The written rules have been considered to have precedence in this matter.
</ref> / before scoring (ZMG)
| after placing the tile
| after placing the tile
|-
| rowspan="3"  | '''Exp. 4 - The Tower'''
| '''towers capture'''
| everything
| everything
| followers
| followers
| followers
| followers
|-
| '''tower captures followers on towers'''
| yes (FAQ)
| no
| yes
| yes
| yes
| yes
|-
| '''tower captures own followers'''
| no
| no
| yes
| yes
| yes
| yes
|-
| rowspan="1"  | '''Exp. 3, Exp. 4. and others'''
| '''last follower is removed'''
| builder or pig not removed (FAQ)
| builder or pig not removed (implicit)
| builder or pig removed
| builder or pig removed
| builder or pig removed
| builder or pig removed
|-
| rowspan="1"  | '''Exp. 5 - Abbey & Mayor'''
| '''the wagon moves to elegible adjacent feature'''
| connected by a road or sharing a surface (i.e. city-inner monastery or city-abbey )
| connected by a road or sharing a surface (i.e. city-inner monastery or city-abbey )
| connected by a road or sharing a surface (i.e. city-inner monastery or city-abbey )
| connected by a road or sharing a surface (i.e. city-inner monastery or city-abbey )
| on same tile or on adjacent one
| on same tile or on adjacent one
|-
| rowspan="1"  | '''Exp. 6 - Count, King & Robber / The Count of Carcassonne'''
| '''Followers in Carcassonne can be redeployed for final scoring'''
| from all quarters (implicit)
| from all quarters (implicit)
| from all quarters (implicit)
| from all quarters (explicit by RGG)
| from market quarter only
| from market quarter only
|-
| rowspan="1"  | '''Exp. 8 - Bridges, Castles & Bazaars'''
| '''castle / fairy'''
| cannot place fairy on castle (implicit - the fairy is placed on a tile)
| cannot place fairy on castle (implicit - the fairy is placed on a tile)
| cannot place fairy on castle <ref name="castle-fairy">
{{IconBook}}
An official clarification reverted the rules stated in Big Box 3 that allowed the fairy to be placed by a follower on a castle. The reason stated is that the fairy has to be placed on a tile.
</ref>
| cannot place fairy on castle <ref name="castle-fairy" />
| can place fairy on castle
| can place fairy on castle
|-
| rowspan="1"  | '''Exp. 9 - Hills & Sheep'''
| '''closed farm with shepherd'''
| no action
| no action
| action "herd flock into stable" is performed automatically
| no action
| action "herd flock into stable" is performed automatically
| action "herd flock into stable" is performed automatically
|-
| rowspan="2"  | '''Mini #2 - The Messengers (Dispatches)'''
| '''message dispatched'''
| when a player lands on a dark space
| when a player lands on a dark space
| when a player lands on a dark space
| when a player lands on a dark space
| when a player lands on a dark space
| when a player lands on a dark space containing no counting figures from other players <ref>
{{IconWorld}}
The discrepancy in the ZMG rules can be caused by a mistranslation of the original HiG rules.
</ref>
|-
| '''Message #8 - Score a follower and remove it from the board'''
| majority is required to score a feature
| majority is required to score a feature
| majority is required to score a feature
| majority is required to score a feature
| majority is required to score a feature
| majority is not required to score a feature <ref>
{{IconWorld}}
The discrepancy in the ZMG rules can be caused by a mistranslation of the original HiG rules.
</ref>
|-
| rowspan="1"  | '''Mini #6 - Robbers'''
| '''players placing robbers'''
| active player and first player to the left with no robber placed
| active player and first player to the left with no robber placed
| active player and first player to the left with no robber placed
| active player and first player to the left with no robber placed
| active player and first player to the left with no robber placed
| all players <ref>
{{IconWorld}}
The discrepancy in the ZMG rules can be caused by a mistranslation of the original HiG rules.
</ref>
|-
| rowspan="1"  | '''Mini #7 - Crop Circles'''
| '''adding a follower action'''
| optional
| optional
| optional
| optional
| mandatory
| mandatory
 
|}
|}


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Order of Play

Carcassonne Order of Play for Discussion

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Carcassonne Game Figures

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Pre-Big Box (HiG) Pre-Big Box (RGG / ZMG) Latest rules (HiG) Latest rules (RGG / ZMG) Latest rules (HiG) Latest rules (ZMG)
Base Game starting player youngest player decides youngest player decides youngest player decides any method agreed upon by all any method agreed upon by all any method agreed upon by all
"small city" rule no yes no no no no
farmer scoring 3rd edition 1st edition 3rd edition 3rd edition 3rd edition 3rd edition
Exp. 2 - Traders & Builders 2nd tile (double turn) drawn immediately drawn immediately drawn after scoring drawn after scoring drawn after scoring drawn after scoring
builders & pigs are followers are followers are not followers are not followers are not followers are not followers
Exp. 3 - The Princess & the Dragon volcano / fairy cannot move fairy cannot move fairy can move fairy can move fairy can move fairy can move fairy
volcano / deployment cannot deploy follower, builder, or pig cannot deploy follower, builder, or pig cannot deploy any figure to the tile [1] cannot deploy follower, builder, or pig cannot deploy follower, builder, or pig cannot deploy follower, builder, or pig
magic portal to unscored feature yes (no in FAQ) no no no no no
princess tile must remove knight or builder must remove knight or builder may remove follower must remove follower must remove follower must remove follower
princess / big follower can only remove if last follower in city (FAQ) same as normal follower (implicit) same as normal follower same as normal follower same as normal follower same as normal follower
the dragon moves before scoring (FAQ) ? before scoring after scoring (RGG) [2] / before scoring (ZMG) after placing the tile after placing the tile
Exp. 4 - The Tower towers capture everything everything followers followers followers followers
tower captures followers on towers yes (FAQ) no yes yes yes yes
tower captures own followers no no yes yes yes yes
Exp. 3, Exp. 4. and others last follower is removed builder or pig not removed (FAQ) builder or pig not removed (implicit) builder or pig removed builder or pig removed builder or pig removed builder or pig removed
Exp. 5 - Abbey & Mayor the wagon moves to elegible adjacent feature connected by a road or sharing a surface (i.e. city-inner monastery or city-abbey ) connected by a road or sharing a surface (i.e. city-inner monastery or city-abbey ) connected by a road or sharing a surface (i.e. city-inner monastery or city-abbey ) connected by a road or sharing a surface (i.e. city-inner monastery or city-abbey ) on same tile or on adjacent one on same tile or on adjacent one
Exp. 6 - Count, King & Robber / The Count of Carcassonne Followers in Carcassonne can be redeployed for final scoring from all quarters (implicit) from all quarters (implicit) from all quarters (implicit) from all quarters (explicit by RGG) from market quarter only from market quarter only
Exp. 8 - Bridges, Castles & Bazaars castle / fairy cannot place fairy on castle (implicit - the fairy is placed on a tile) cannot place fairy on castle (implicit - the fairy is placed on a tile) cannot place fairy on castle [3] cannot place fairy on castle [3] can place fairy on castle can place fairy on castle
Exp. 9 - Hills & Sheep closed farm with shepherd no action no action action "herd flock into stable" is performed automatically no action action "herd flock into stable" is performed automatically action "herd flock into stable" is performed automatically
Mini #2 - The Messengers (Dispatches) message dispatched when a player lands on a dark space when a player lands on a dark space when a player lands on a dark space when a player lands on a dark space when a player lands on a dark space when a player lands on a dark space containing no counting figures from other players [4]
Message #8 - Score a follower and remove it from the board majority is required to score a feature majority is required to score a feature majority is required to score a feature majority is required to score a feature majority is required to score a feature majority is not required to score a feature [5]
Mini #6 - Robbers players placing robbers active player and first player to the left with no robber placed active player and first player to the left with no robber placed active player and first player to the left with no robber placed active player and first player to the left with no robber placed active player and first player to the left with no robber placed all players [6]
Mini #7 - Crop Circles adding a follower action optional optional optional optional mandatory mandatory

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  1. ↑ Official clarification from the publisher As noted in the rules, a player may deploy a barn, play a tower piece, or place a follower on the Wheel of Fortune.
  2. ↑ Interpretation from the Community It seems a mistranslation by RGG of the original HiG rules. Big Box 3 written rules indicate the dragon moves after scoring but the turn sequence summary instructs to move the dragon before scoring. The written rules have been considered to have precedence in this matter.
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 Official clarification from the publisher An official clarification reverted the rules stated in Big Box 3 that allowed the fairy to be placed by a follower on a castle. The reason stated is that the fairy has to be placed on a tile.
  4. ↑ Interpretation from the Community The discrepancy in the ZMG rules can be caused by a mistranslation of the original HiG rules.
  5. ↑ Interpretation from the Community The discrepancy in the ZMG rules can be caused by a mistranslation of the original HiG rules.
  6. ↑ Interpretation from the Community The discrepancy in the ZMG rules can be caused by a mistranslation of the original HiG rules.
  7. ↑ 7.0 7.1 Interpretation from the Community This footnote is only visible when the Dragon is selected and it is highlighted in blue when C1 or WE is the preferred edition. It may have one or two back links depending on your Dragon and Fairy selection.
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