Santuaris i heretges (1a edició)

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This page is a translated version of the page Heretics and Shrines (1st edition) and the translation is 68% complete.


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Culte, setges i creativitat
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Almanac de Hans im Glück

Informació general i comentaris

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Heretges i santuaris (or Shrines and Heretics) was originally released by Hans im Glück in 2007 as part of Exp. 6 ‒ El comte, el rei i el viatjant Exp. 6 ‒ El comte, el rei i el viatjant.

The tiles were also reprinted in the Spielbox Hans im Glück Almanac issue in 2008 but with different logos (a pentagon rather than a crown) along with some pieces for another HiG game, Stone Age. The rules for this version of the expansion are the same as the initial version.

Finally, it was released by Rio Grande Games (2008) as part of Culte, setges i creativitat Culte, setges i creativitat along with one extra landscape tile (CRFR), 4x El setge El setge tiles and 2x blank tiles to allow the purchaser to create their own tile layouts. RGG chose to call the tiles “cult places”, although the rules for their use are again identical.

Contingut

Regles

Preparació

The new land tiles should be mixed in with the other tiles. This expansion has been developed for the Carcassonne basic game.

Col·locar una peça

Shrines are placed and scored in the same way as a cloister. [1] However, a shrine may not be placed in such a way that it adjoins several cloisters. [2] Similarly, a cloister may not be placed so that it neighbors several shrines. [3] [4] [5]

Posar un seguidor

A follower deployed to a shrine is called a heretic. If a player places a shrine directly (horizontally, vertically, or diagonally) next to the cloister [6] of another player [7] and deploys a heretic to it, a challenge is laid down to the monk. [8] The same is true when a monk is deployed to a cloister directly next to a heretic. [9] Challenging your own monk or heretic is also possible. [10] [11] [12]

When a player places a shrine tile, he or she may, as usual, choose to deploy a follower to the farm, road, or city segment of the tile, instead of to the shrine itself. [13]

Puntuació

When you complete one or more features (e.g. a monastery, a road etc.) by placing a Shrine land tile, it is scored according to the normal rules.

The challenge

The challenge is about who can finish his or her building first. [14] [15]

The player who finishes his or her feature first scores 9 points, [16] while the other player scores nothing. [17] [18] [19] [20] Both followers are then returned to their owners. [21] [22]

Recompte final

If a challenge has not been resolved by the end of the game, both players receive the usual points awarded for incomplete cloisters.

Regles de la casa

  • To raise the stakes of a challenge between shrines and cloisters, and to make it more worthwhile to risk the chance of getting no points, the winning challenger receives the points for both structures while the loser still receives nothing. If promoting more aggressive play, the challenger could be the only one playing for the reward. (Thanks to youtch and others; thanks to RationalLemming, and to avt104981 for pointing out that this can’t result in 18 points)

Distribució de peces

El comte, el rei i el viatjant Edició

Peces en total: 5
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Culte, setges i creativitat Edició

Peces en total: 6
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Spielbox Edició

Peces en total: 5
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Notes

Per a veure les descripcions de les icones i llicències, visiteu la pàgina d'icones.

  1. ↑ Aclariment oficial de l'editor A knight in a besieged city from Els càtars Els càtars can escape via a shrine, as with a cloister. The shrines are, for the most part, identical to cloisters. That goes for escape as well.
  2. ↑ Interpretació de la comunitat In other words, a shrine cannot adjoin more than one cloister, and vice versa.
  3. ↑ Aclariment oficial de l'editor Question: Can I place a shrine in such a way that it forces a cloister to neighbor several shrines? What effect does that have? Answer: It leads to enormous problems when multiple cloisters and shrines neighbor each other. [In other words, no, you can’t place a shrine in that way—ed.]
  4. ↑ Aclariment oficial de l'editor The rules that restrict the placement of cloisters next to already placed shrines also restrict the placement of abbeys.
  5. ↑ Regla de la casa o variant comú Because the problems arise when there are multiple simultaneous challenges, one could allow placement of further shrines or cloisters into the area as long as no followers are placed on those cloisters/shrines (i.e. there are no further challenges).
  6. ↑ Aclariment oficial de l'editor A shrine can challenge an abbey, and vice versa, because the abbey is also a cloister.
  7. ↑ Regla molt diferent segons les edicions o els editors The RGG edition of Count, King & Robber changes this to “When a heretic is placed on a shrine adjacent (orthogonally or diagonally) to an occupied monastery, a challenge occurs.” Because the part about “another player,” was removed, the final sentence in this paragraph regarding one’s own monk/heretic became unnecessary and was also removed. (12/2013)
  8. ↑ Interpretació de la comunitat When playing with Monestir alemany, Monestir holandès o belga, an abbot cannot be involved in a challenge with a heretic on a shrine/cult place, as the two scoring mechanisms are entirely different (the abbot’s monastery is never completed, so the heretic would always win). (5/2014)
  9. ↑ Regla molt diferent segons les edicions o els editors The RGG edition of Big Box 2 Big Box 2 adds, ‘That is, the monk must challenge the heretic.’
  10. ↑ Regla molt diferent segons les edicions o els editors This sentence is omitted in the RGG version.
  11. ↑ Aclariment oficial de l'editor A magic portal also allows you to trigger a challenge on shrines, as these are areas of the landscape and tiles that were placed by the players during the game and on which a follower could also have been placed normally.
  12. ↑ Aclariment oficial de l'editor The fairy can be assigned to a heretic.
  13. ↑ Regla molt diferent segons les edicions o els editors The RGG version adds that a player may also “choose to place no follower at all on the tile.”
  14. ↑ Aclariment oficial de l'editor If the tile placed completes both the shrine and the cloister, no one completed the building first, and both receive the points.
  15. ↑ Aclariment oficial de l'editor Question: Imagine I have an unoccupied cloister next to an occupied shrine. I place a tile with a magic portal which completes both buildings, and choose to use the magic portal to deploy a monk to the cloister. Does this declare a challenge, and if so, who wins? Answer: This is actually an invalid placement of the follower – the magic portal cannot be used to place a follower on a completed feature (and the cloister is considered completed before the move wood phase). Thus, there can be no challenge, and the heretic gets 9 points. (updated 7/2014)
  16. ↑ Regla molt diferent segons les edicions o els editors The RGG edition adds a clarification here: “Once a challenge has been declared, the player (of those two involved in the challenge) who first completes his cult place or cloister scores 9 points as normal.”
  17. ↑ Aclariment oficial de l'editor Question: If the fairy is on the same tile as the losing heretic or monk in a challenge, does the player still score the bonus 3 points? Answer: When a challenge is resolved (that is, when someone has won), both followers are returned to the player, so no one stands next to the fairy. [At the point that a challenge is resolved and one participant “scores” zero, the building that participant is in will be incomplete. Therefore, strictly speaking, that participant does not actually take part in “scoring”—say, in the way that a player without the majority in a city does—and so does not score the bonus points —ed.]
  18. ↑ Aclariment oficial de l'editor Question: Say I have a heretic engaged in a challenge with another player's monk, and I place the tile which completes the monk's cloister, so that the monk scores 9 points and I score 0. Can I still move a follower to Carcassonne in this case? Answer: Yes, triggered scoring, received no points: conditions fulfilled.
  19. ↑ Aclariment oficial de l'editor During a challenge, if a feature is completed, but the corresponding follower is removed by the dragon, there is no evaluation for the cloister or shrine. With the "disappearance" of the monk or heretic, the challenge ends and the other remains on the landscape until his monastery or shrine is closed or removed from the landscape.
  20. ↑ Interpretació de la comunitat The feature losing a challenge cannot trigger the scoring of a castle, since the losing feature was not completed.
  21. ↑ Interpretació de la comunitat A wagon on the feature losing a challenge cannot move to an adjacent feature. The wagon is directly removed without scoring, since the feature where it is placed is uncompleted when the challenge is resolved.
  22. ↑ Aclariment oficial de l'editor When a challenge is resolved, both the monk and heretic are removed from play. If that leaves one of the buildings incomplete, it can be reoccupied by using a magic portal or a follower from Carcassonne.
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