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When you complete a road leading directly to a cathedral your highwayman gives you '''2 points''' for each tile the road consist of. <ref>{{IconWorld}}  
When you complete a road leading directly to a cathedral your highwayman gives you '''2 points''' for each road segment the road consist of. <ref>{{IconWorld}}  
'''Question''': If a road starts at one German Cathedral and ends at a different German Cathedral is the scoring of the road still 2 points per tile? '''Answer''': Yes, still 2 points per tile.
'''Question''': If a road starts at one German Cathedral and ends at a different German Cathedral is the scoring of the road still 2 points per road segment? '''Answer''': Yes, still 2 points per road segment. German Cathedrals do not stack.
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Unlike the rules of the base game, for a road starting and ending on the '''same''' Land tile showing a cathedral, you count and score each section of the road separately - i.e. that tile counts twice.
Unlike the rules of the base game, for a road starting and ending on the '''same''' Land tile showing a cathedral, you count and score each road segment separately.


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[[File:german_Cathedrals_C1_example_a.png|250px|none|thumb|{{ColorRed|RED}} scores 10 points for the closed road. On the Land tile showing a cathedral you count both roads separately.]]
[[File:german_Cathedrals_C1_example_a.png|250px|none|thumb|{{ColorRed|RED}} scores 10 points for the closed road. On the Land tile showing a cathedral you count both roads segments separately.]]


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The cathedral itself can only be scored once all roads leading to it are closed. The archbishop gives you points for all the roads - '''1 point''' for each road '''tile'''. The 3 or 4 road segments on the cathedral tile are counted separately. <ref name="german-cathedral-scoring">
The cathedral itself can only be scored once all roads leading to it are closed. The archbishop gives you points for all the roads - '''1 point''' for each road segment. The 3 or 4 road segments on the cathedral tile are counted separately. <ref name="german-cathedral-scoring">
The following table summarizes the various scoring cases:
The following table summarizes the various scoring cases:


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| colspan="5" align="center" bgcolor="cccccc" | '''Scoring during the game'''
| colspan="5" align="center" bgcolor="cccccc" | '''Scoring during the game'''
|- align="center"
|- align="center"
| Road leading to Cathedral|| 2 points / tile || 3 points / tile || &ndash; || &ndash;
| Road leading to Cathedral|| 2 points / road segment || 3 points / road segment || &ndash; || &ndash;
|- align="center"
|- align="center"
| Archbishop on G. Cathedral || 1 point / tile || 2 points / tile || &ndash; || &ndash;
| Archbishop on G. Cathedral || 1 point / road segment || 2 points / road segment || &ndash; || &ndash;
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| colspan="5" align="center" bgcolor="cccccc" | '''Scoring after the game'''
| colspan="5" align="center" bgcolor="cccccc" | '''Scoring after the game'''
|- align="center"
|- align="center"
| Road leading to Cathedral || &ndash; || &ndash; || 1 point / tile || 0 points / tile
| Road leading to Cathedral || &ndash; || &ndash; || 1 point / road segment || 0 points / road segment
|- align="center"
|- align="center"
| Archbishop on G. Cathedral || 1 point / tile || 2 points / tile || 1 point / tile || 0 points / tile
| Archbishop on G. Cathedral || 1 point / road segment || 2 points / road segment || 1 point / road segment || 0 points / road segment
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At the end of the game unfinished roads leading to cathedrals and unfinished cathedrals give you points. Highwaymen and archbishops give you one point for each road tile leading to the cathedral.<ref name="german-cathedral-scoring" /> <ref>
At the end of the game unfinished roads leading to cathedrals and unfinished cathedrals give you points. Highwaymen and archbishops give you one point for each road segment leading to the cathedral.<ref name="german-cathedral-scoring" /> <ref>
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This paragraph has been updated to reflect the original meaning of the [[Hans im Glück|HiG]] rules. The official clarifications provided indicated that:  
This paragraph has been updated to reflect the original meaning of the [[Hans im Glück|HiG]] rules. The official clarifications provided indicated that:  
* Highwaymen on unfinished roads are scored as usual.
* Highwaymen on unfinished roads are scored as usual, that is, taking into account the majority.
* Archbishops on unfinished cathedrals get 1 point per road tile from all the finished and unfinished roads leading to the cathedral.
* Archbishops on unfinished cathedrals get 1 point per road segment from all the finished and unfinished roads leading to the cathedral.
In any case, road segments on the cathedral tile are counted separately for road starting and ending at the cathedral. (4/2016)<br />
In any case, road segments on the cathedral tile are counted separately for road starting and ending at the cathedral. (4/2016)</ref>
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The original text in the English rules said: <br />
:At the end of the game all unfinished roads leading to cathedrals and all unfinished cathedrals give you points. Each highwayman and each archbishop give you one point for each road tile leading to the cathedral.<br />
Although the wording is not very precise, an interpretation of the rules according to the Carcassonne standard rules would mean that a highwayman final scoring should be obtained taking into account the majority on the road stretch it is on. <br/ >
Therefore, according to the rules provided for '''German Cathedrals''', a player having the majority with one or more highwaymen on an incomplete road connected to German Cathedral should get the usual scoring for that road times the the number of his/her highwaymen on that particular road.<br />
This interpretation has been ruled out by the clarifications provided by [[Hans im Glück|HiG]].
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When using [[Inns and Cathedrals (1st edition)|Inns and Cathedrals]], for each closed road with an Inn <ref>
When using [[Inns and Cathedrals (1st edition)|Inns and Cathedrals]], for each closed road with an Inn <ref>
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Inns do no stack: If more than one Inn is present on a road, the road still scores 2 points for each road tile.
Inns do no stack: If more than one Inn is present on a road, the road still scores 2 points for each road segment.
</ref> that leads to a cathedral, you get 3 instead of 2 points for each road tile, and 2 points instead of 1 for your archbishop. <ref>
</ref> that leads to a cathedral, you get 3 instead of 2 points for each road segment, and 2 points instead of 1 for your archbishop. <ref>
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Archbishops score 2 points per road tile on a finished road both during the game and after the game. (4/2016)
Archbishops score 2 points per road segment on a finished road both during the game and after the game. (4/2016)
</ref> Unfinished roads at the end of the game are still worth 0 points. This applies to the highwayman as well as the achbishop. <ref name="german-cathedral-scoring" />
</ref> Unfinished roads at the end of the game are still worth 0 points. This applies to the highwayman as well as the achbishop. <ref name="german-cathedral-scoring" />