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 Interpretation from the Community Using tokens as a reminder

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Since the city with La Porxada must be completed for this effect to trigger at the end of the game, and thus players will no longer have followers actually in the city, it may be beneficial to distribute some sort of token to those players who had followers in the city when it was completed.

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 Interpretation from the Community Scoring multiple monks / heretics (and abbots)

A monastery with multiple monks from various players will be scored taking into account the majority, the same as a road or a city. This will also apply to all monastic features: monasteries, abbeys, shrines, German monasteries, Dutch & Belgian monasteries, Japanese buildings and Darmstadt churches.

When dealing with special monasteries (German monasteries, Dutch & Belgian monasteries and Japanese buildings), you may place additional meeples as abbots with a flying machine. You won't be allowed to deploy meeples as abbots from the city of Carcassonne.

Meeples placed as abbots on a special monastery will be ignored if the feature is completed and scored by any meeples placed as monks on the feature. However, those meeples placed as abbots will be scored at the end of the game, taking into account the majority if more than one player has meeples on the feature.

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A monastery with multiple monks from various players will be scored taking into account the majority, the same as a road or a city. [1] This will also apply to all monastic features: monasteries, abbeys, shrines, German monasteries, Dutch & Belgian monasteries, Japanese buildings and Darmstadt churches.

1. Placing a tile
When dealing with special monasteries (German monasteries, Dutch & Belgian monasteries and Japanese buildings), you may place additional meeples as abbots [N1 1] [N1 2] with a flying machine. You won't be allowed to deploy meeples as abbots from the city of Carcassonne.
Notes [N1]:
  1. ↑ Interpretation from the Community This is a clarification. The ZMG rules allowed the active player to score a feature even without having the majority. This may be due to a mistranslation of the German rules.
  2. ↑ Official clarification from the publisher Yes. Another clarification. Any other meeples belonging to you or other players remain on the feature, as it is still incomplete.

2. Placing a meeple
When dealing with special monasteries (German monasteries, Dutch & Belgian monasteries and Japanese buildings), you may place additional meeples as abbots [N2 1] [N2 2] with a flying machine. You won't be allowed to deploy meeples as abbots from the city of Carcassonne.

Meeples placed as abbots on a special monastery will be ignored if the feature is completed and scored by any meeples placed as monks on the feature. However, those meeples placed as abbots will be scored at the end of the game, taking into account the majority if more than one player has meeples on the feature. [N2 3]

Notes [N2]:
  1. ↑ Interpretation from the Community This is a clarification. The ZMG rules allowed the active player to score a feature even without having the majority. This may be due to a mistranslation of the German rules.
  2. ↑ Official clarification from the publisher Yes. Another clarification. Any other meeples belonging to you or other players remain on the feature, as it is still incomplete.
  3. ↑ Official clarification from the publisher And another clarification.

Example 1: You (Red player) complete this city. Blue scores 4 points and you score none. You decide to place a meeple in the cathedral in Carcassonne.

Meeples placed as abbots on a special monastery will be ignored if the feature is completed and scored by any meeples placed as monks on the feature. However, those meeples placed as abbots will be scored at the end of the game, taking into account the majority if more than one player has meeples on the feature. [N3 1] [2]

Notes [N3]:
  1. ↑ Official clarification from the publisher And another clarification.

Footnotes (Raw)

  1. ↑ Notorious rule difference among editions or publishers Problem with translation.
  2. ↑ Notorious rule difference among editions or publishers Rewording to solve discrepancy.

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A monastery with multiple monks from various players will be scored taking into account the majority, the same as a road or a city. [1] This will also apply to all monastic features: monasteries, abbeys, shrines, German monasteries, Dutch & Belgian monasteries, Japanese buildings and Darmstadt churches.

1. Placing a tile
When dealing with special monasteries (German monasteries, Dutch & Belgian monasteries and Japanese buildings), you may place additional meeples as abbots [N1 1] [N1 2] with a flying machine. You won't be allowed to deploy meeples as abbots from the city of Carcassonne.
Notes [N1]:
  1. ↑ Interpretation from the Community This is a clarification. The ZMG rules allowed the active player to score a feature even without having the majority. This may be due to a mistranslation of the German rules.
  2. ↑ Official clarification from the publisher Yes. Another clarification. Any other meeples belonging to you or other players remain on the feature, as it is still incomplete.

2. Placing a meeple

When dealing with special monasteries (German monasteries, Dutch & Belgian monasteries and Japanese buildings), you may place additional meeples as abbots [N2 1] [N2 2] with a flying machine. You won't be allowed to deploy meeples as abbots from the city of Carcassonne.

Meeples placed as abbots on a special monastery will be ignored if the feature is completed and scored by any meeples placed as monks on the feature. However, those meeples placed as abbots will be scored at the end of the game, taking into account the majority if more than one player has meeples on the feature. [N2 3]

Notes [N2]:
  1. ↑ Interpretation from the Community This is a clarification. The ZMG rules allowed the active player to score a feature even without having the majority. This may be due to a mistranslation of the German rules.
  2. ↑ Official clarification from the publisher Yes. Another clarification. Any other meeples belonging to you or other players remain on the feature, as it is still incomplete.
  3. ↑ Official clarification from the publisher And another clarification.

Example 1: You (Red player) complete this city. Blue scores 4 points and you score none. You decide to place a meeple in the cathedral in Carcassonne.

Meeples placed as abbots on a special monastery will be ignored if the feature is completed and scored by any meeples placed as monks on the feature. However, those meeples placed as abbots will be scored at the end of the game, taking into account the majority if more than one player has meeples on the feature. [N3 1] [2]

Notes [N3]:

  1. ↑ Official clarification from the publisher And another clarification.


Meeples placed as abbots on a special monastery will be ignored if the feature is completed and scored by any meeples placed as monks on the feature. However, those meeples placed as abbots will be scored at the end of the game, taking into account the majority if more than one player has meeples on the feature. [N4 1] [3]

Notes [N4]:

  1. ↑ Official clarification from the publisher And another clarification.


Footnotes (Template)

  1. ↑ Notorious rule difference among editions or publishers Problem with translation.
  2. ↑ Notorious rule difference among editions or publishers Rewording to solve discrepancy again.
  3. ↑ Notorious rule difference among editions or publishers Rewording to solve discrepancy again.

Official

In Romanian, there are official translations only for Base game, Big Box 6 and for the all 9 expansions. What can I do with the other miniexpansions? Can I translate them manually? --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 21:14, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, this is what we do for all other languages without official translations. If released, we can update the translation accordingly. But normally, we use the English version with some updates using the German ones as a reference to validate the meaning. ZMG, the English publisher, don't not provide very good translations (some rules are altered in English due to mistranslations by ZMG). HiG sometimes either (You can check C2 Halflings, for example). --Meepledrone (talk) 21:21, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Leipzig

See Special:AllComments. --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 13:02, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Peasant Revolts and City of Carcassonne

"Moving a protected meeple to Carcassonne would remove its protection (if any), since it cannot be applied later?"

How do you could move a protected meeple (so it is placed in the playing area) in Carcassonne? That meeple should come from supply, not from playing area, and there are no protected meeples in supply. Maybe it is about Leipzig? --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 19:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

You are right, when splitting the common clarification for Carcassonne and Leipzig, the part about Carcassonne alone was odd. I updated the wording of the clarification accordingly. --Meepledrone (talk) 00:00, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Translations:Authorised Fan Conversions/6/ro

Can you delete Translations:Authorised Fan Conversions/6/ro? I created it by mistake. --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 01:10, 5 November 2021 (CET)

Only block #6? What's the issue? --Meepledrone (talk) 12:41, 5 November 2021 (CET)

Collapsible Rows

Col 1 Col 2 Col 3
Alpha Blah blah Yaddah yaddah [+ / –]
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Beta Blah blah Yaddah yaddah [+ / –]
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No C3?

The Festival: There will be no distinction between C2 and C3 pages on WICA? In other words, only The Festival, not The Festival (2nd edition) and The Festival (or The Festival (3rd edition))? --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 22:26, 30 April 2022 (CEST)

Currently deciding best approach:

  • We could join the pages for all the editions (C1 + C2 + C3 but commenting differences): this could be very cumbersome in some cases
  • We could keep two pages (one for C1, and another for C2 + C3): it could be old edition vs. new edition
  • We could create a new set of pages for C3: question should we keep Halflings and Cathedrals in Germany as C2 or C3? Halflings is more C2 than C3, German cathedrals seems more C3 than C2.

--Meepledrone (talk) 21:22, 30 April 2022 (CEST)

HiG surely does not know which is the correct variant :) But the images of the examples in which edition should be shown? For example, at Base game, the images are shown in C2. --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 11:12, 1 May 2022 (CEST)

We will have to separate C3 eventually due to seveal reasons:

  • The new style in graphics affecting the tiles and the rules
  • The new wording of the meeple roles
  • Some revisions to the rules.

So far there is not much critical mass to do the separation: no major expansions have been re-released so we are in a similar situation to that of the CAR in 2015: new stuff has been released in C3, but it hasn't enough critical mass to duplicate the whole contents. --Meepledrone (talk) 12:31, 1 May 2022 (CEST)

Account renameing

Can you rename my account into NGC 54 (via Special:RenameUser)? Thanks! --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 21:35, 3 August 2022 (CEST)

Including the white space ("NGC 54") or replacing it by an underscore ("NGC_54")? --Meepledrone (talk) 14:13, 5 August 2022 (CEST)

Including the white space. --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 22:16, 5 August 2022 (CEST)
Is there any way to rename my Carcassonne Central account into NGC 54, too?--User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 00:17, 29 November 2022 (CET)
You can change your name displayed for your user. Go to "Profile" (top menu), then "Account Settings" (left menu) and change the value of field "Name". Let me know if this does the trick for you. --Meepledrone (talk) 09:49, 29 November 2022 (CET)
It works. Thanks! --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 13:00, 29 November 2022 (CET)

At once

I would like to change some of the translations at once (I would like to change "Păstrătorii de taxe" into "Vameșii", "casă cu baie" into "casă-baie", "(ediția veche)" into "(prima ediție)", and so on). It is possible? --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 20:57, 22 August 2022 (CEST)

Global replacements requested applied. Please let me know if you need some more. --Meepledrone (talk) 10:58, 28 August 2022 (CEST)
Thanks! I will make a list with what I would like to replace. --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 14:58, 28 August 2022 (CEST)
Could you replace Miniextensia pentru a 20-a aniversare with Extensia pentru a 20-a aniversare? --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 01:10, 10 September 2022 (CEST)
Done! Please have a look to check everything is fine. --Meepledrone (talk) 12:10, 10 September 2022 (CEST)
Jumătăți with Jumi-juma? Jumătăți means Halves, and Jumi-juma is closer to the original (Halb so wild). --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 12:37, 29 October 2022 (CEST)
Done. --Meepledrone (talk) 12:43, 29 October 2022 (CEST)
"ş" with "ș", "Ş" with "Ș", "ţ" with "ț" and "Ţ" with "Ț". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-comma and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-comma explain why. --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 03:02, 19 December 2022 (CET)
Please correct these typos, too: https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&profile=default&search=Carcassone and https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&profile=default&search=Carcasonne. --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 14:41, 19 December 2022 (CET)
If you could, please replace de observație with de veghe – this would be consistent with https://oxygame.ro/carcassonne-die-wachturme?search=Carcassonne&description=true (and is also a better translation). --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 23:10, 29 June 2023 (CEST)
Done! --Meepledrone (talk) 22:21, 30 June 2023 (CEST)
The sections from Extensia pentru a 20-a aniversare are not stylised because the category Ediția pentru a 20-a aniversare is not included in MediaWiki:SectionStyling.js. User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 19:43, 9 February 2024 (CET)
Done! --Meepledrone (talk) 18:45, 25 February 2024 (CET)

Green background

In Romanian, the sections no longer have a green background. Compare Count, King and Robber with Contele, regele și vasalii. --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 12:41, 12 September 2022 (CEST)

Added new name for 2nd Edition to the page styling configuration. Please check all th C2 pages --Meepledrone (talk) 19:31, 12 September 2022 (CEST)
Spirite, castele și cimitire? --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 18:22, 30 October 2022 (CET)
It does not work for Pariurile, too, but it works for other pages, like Turnul. Why? I cannot find the issue. --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 22:47, 3 November 2022 (CET)
I added category "A treia ediție" for the C3 in the styling configuration, The Tower is using the C2 category. --Meepledrone (talk) 22:58, 3 November 2022 (CET)
Please add Category:Prima ediție in firstEdition: from MediaWiki:SectionStyling.js (there is no green background in Jocul de bază (prima ediție) and other pages). --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 00:50, 17 November 2022 (CET)
And Ceață peste Carcassonne in mists:. --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 18:36, 17 November 2022 (CET)
Done! --Meepledrone (talk) 18:55, 17 November 2022 (CET)
Ediția de iarnă in winterEdition: section of MediaWiki:SectionStyling.js page. --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 13:57, 19 November 2023 (CET)
Done! --Meepledrone (talk) 20:12, 19 November 2023 (CET)

Automatic replacements for English pages for Name/Link templates

Before manual edit of every page, please can do make those changes by bulk replace. List will be updated.

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[[Base game|Base game]] {{BaseGameLink|edition=C2|logo=noborder}}
[[Traders and Builders (1st edition)|Traders and Builders]] {{TradersBuildersLink|edition=C1|logo=noborder}}
[[Traders and Builders|Traders and Builders]] {{TradersBuildersLink|edition=C2|logo=noborder}}
[[The Princess and The Dragon (1st edition)|The Princess and the Dragon]] {{PrincessDragonLink|edition=C1|logo=noborder}}
[[The Princess and The Dragon|The Princess and the Dragon]] {{PrincessDragonLink|edition=C2|logo=noborder}}
[[Abbey and the Mayor (1st edition)|Abbey and the Mayor]] {{AbbeyMayorLink|edition=C1|logo=noborder}}
[[Abbey and the Mayor|Abbey and the Mayor]] {{AbbeyMayorLink|edition=C2|logo=noborder}}
[[Count, King and Robber (1st edition)|Count, King and Robber]] {{CountKingRobberLink|edition=C1|logo=noborder}}
[[Count, King and Robber|Count, King and Robber]] {{CountKingRobberLink|edition=C2|logo=noborder}}
[[Hills & Sheep (1st edition)|Hills & Sheep]] {{HillsSheepLink|edition=C1|logo=noborder}}
[[Hills & Sheep|Hills & Sheep]] {{HillsSheepLink|edition=C2|logo=noborder}}
[[The Wheel of Fortune (1st edition)|The Wheel of Fortune]] {{WheelFortuneLink|edition=C1|logo=noborder}}
[[Variants#Big Box|Big Box]] {{VariantsLink|version=BigBox1|logo=noborder}}
[[Variants#Big Box|Big Box 1]] {{VariantsLink|version=BigBox1|logo=noborder}}
[[Variants#Big Box 2|Big Box 2]] {{VariantsLink|version=BigBox2|logo=noborder}}
[[Variants#Big Box 3|Big Box 3]] {{VariantsLink|version=BigBox3|logo=noborder}}
[[Variants#Big Box 4|Big Box 4]] {{VariantsLink|version=BigBox4|logo=noborder}}
[[Variants#Big Box 5|Big Box 5]] {{VariantsLink|version=BigBox5|logo=noborder}}
[[Variants#Big Box 6|Big Box 6]] {{VariantsLink|version=BigBox6|logo=noborder}}
[[Variants#Big Box 6|Big Box 6]] {{VariantsLink|version=BigBox6|logo=noborder}}
[[River (1st edition)|The River]] {{RiverLink|edition=C1|logo=noborder}}
[[River|The River]] {{RiverLink|edition=C2|logo=noborder}}
[[The Count of Carcassonne (1st edition)|The Count of Carcassonne]] {{CountCarcassonneLink|edition=C1|logo=noborder}}
[[Games Quarterly 11 (1st edition)|Games Quarterly #11]] {{GamesQuarterlyLink|edition=C1|logo=noborder}}


Links
[[Hans_im_Glück|'''HiG''']] [[{{Path|Hans_im_Glück}}|'''HiG''']]
[[Hans_im_Glück|HiG]] [[{{Path|Hans_im_Glück}}|HiG]]
[[Hans im Glück]] [[{{Path|Hans_im_Glück}}|HiG]]
[[Rio_Grande_Games|'''RGG''']] [[{{Path|Rio_Grande_Games}}|'''RGG''']]
[[Rio_Grande_Games|RGG]] [[{{Path|Rio_Grande_Games}}|RGG]]
[[Z-Man Games|'''ZMG''']] [[{{Path|Z-Man Games}}|'''ZMG''']]
[[Z-Man Games|ZMG]] [[{{Path|Z-Man Games}}|ZMG]]
This message above was written by Bumsakalaka but I have question about the last abbreviations. Is there a reason why we use abbreviations for Hans im Glück, Rio Grande Games and Z-Man Games in most of the pages of Wikicarpedia. When a new player come for the first time in Wikicarpedia, how can he knows what it means? No one will click on the link and see the real name. There is sometimes wikilinks but not always and if we make a resize printscreen to add in an answer, on a social media for example, the real name of the publisher is missing. Black Bear (talk) 20:45, 14 December 2022 (CET)
I agree with Black Bear.
The replacement will be automatic on the translated pages, too, or I have to manually copy the {{Path}} like here? --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 22:47, 14 December 2022 (CET)
Finally I found way, how to answer user talk directly (by mobile version of WiCa theme). Replacement will automatically change paths to local version of pages. On any English page [[{{Path|Z-Man Games}}]] is generating link to Z-Man Games. Of for example French page it generates link to Z-Man Games/fr. So not need to replace if it will be replaced automatically. Question about HiG/ZMG,BGG. I prefer long names, we know these abbreviations but visitors maybe not. This replacements table are just from Inns & Cathedrals Inns & Cathedrals. But once it were there as long name, once as short. So it will be good to standardize it. -- Bumsakalaka (talk) 20:02, 15 December 2022 (CET)

Clarifications requests

Table for clarification requests --Meepledrone (talk) 18:27, 19 December 2022 (CET)

ID Page/topic Clarification Requester Status Comments
001 Monastic buildings & Sieges Besides regular monasteries, abbeys and shrines, all other monastic buildings (special monasteries and Darmstadt churches) should allow a knight to escape a besiegd city NGC 54 Requested  
002 ... ... ... ...  

The Plague images translation

How can I translate the text of the images of the diagrams form The Plague (1st edition)? They cannot be translated directly on WICA. --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 01:32, 11 January 2023 (CET)

I left some comments in the HTML code. Check the comments and you will find the procedure to generate a new image in a new language. Let me know if you have any issues. --Meepledrone (talk) 11:54, 14 January 2023 (CET)

Winter Tile Reference Translations

At Ediția de iarnă: Referință pentru cartonașe, I cannot translate "Winter Edition Download Version (WD)", "Winter Edition - 1st version (WE1)", "Winter Edition - 2nd version (WE2)", and "Winter Edition - 3rd version (WE3)", as I do not find their location. Using the search feature, it seems that to me that these texts are found only at MediaWiki:TileData.js. --User:Paloi Sciurala (talk) 16:13, 22 November 2023 (CET)

Missing labels added. Try translating them now. --Meepledrone (talk) 21:43, 23 November 2023 (CET)
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