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Pending tasks/questions:
== Interactions with other expansions ==
* Integrating [http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=3984.15 clarifications of the rules] when interacting with other expansions. Should they be included as an additional section or as footnotes?
* Mixing of images with C1 and C2 artwork - Should we split the page into two?
==[[User:Meepledrone|Meepledrone]] ([[User talk:Meepledrone|talk]]) 12:26, 14 October 2018 (UTC)


I'm OK with the two being on the same page, so long as both editions link to it.--[[User:Wolnic|Wolnic]] ([[User talk:Wolnic|talk]]) 15:14, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
I found on CarcC some clarifications of the rules when interacting with other expansions, summarized in [http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=3984.15 this entry] by Mikeagan. I found them interesting. Should they be included as an additional section or as footnotes?


Additionally, can you place a follower on the labyrinth/linked roads through a Magic Portal? I would assume, yes. --[[User:Wolnic|Wolnic]] ([[User talk:Wolnic|talk]]) 15:14, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
Expanding on this entry, I list a series of cases below where the points you get from the road tiles (including the labyrinth) vary depending on the interactions with other expansions. Independently of how these points are modified, the bonus points for the meeples on the road do no change in any case when scoring the feature.
 
* '''Case 0 - Regular labyrinth:''' If a labyrinth is completed, you will get 1 point for each road tile including the labyrinth itself. An incomplete labyrinth at the end of the game is worth 1 point for each tile including the labyrinth itself.
* '''Case 1 - Inns & Cathedrals:''' If a labyrinth is completed and contains one or more inns (inns do not stack) and you have the majority of meeples, you will get 2 points instead of 1 point for each road tile including the labyrinth itself. An incomplete labyrinth with an inn(s) at the end of the game is worth 0 points for each tile including the labyrinth itself.
* '''Case 2 - German Cathedrals:''' If a labyrinth is completed and one or more of its roads end at a German Cathedral (German Cathedrals do not stack) and you have the majority of meeples, you will get 2 points instead of 1 point for each road tile including the labyrinth itself. An incomplete labyrinth with one or more of its roads ending at a German Cathedral at the end of the game is worth 1 point per tile including the Labyrinth itself.
* '''Case 3 - The Markets of Leipzig:''' If a labyrinth is completed and you also have a meeple on the Wainwrights Quarter, and you have the majority of meeples, you receive 1 bonus point per tile including the labyrinth itself. An incomplete labyrinth at the end of the game does not receive the Wainwrights Quarter bonus.
* '''Case 4 - Inns & Cathedrals + German Cathedrals''': If a labyrinth is completed and contains one or more inns and one or more of its roads end at a German Cathedral and you have the majority of meeples, you will get 3 points instead of 1 point for each road tile including the labyrinth itself. An incomplete labyrinth with an inn(s) at the end of the game is worth 0 points.
* '''Case 5 - Inns & Cathedrals + The Markets of Leipzig''': If a labyrinth is completed and contains one or more inns and you also have a meeple on the Wainwrights Quarter, and you have the majority of meeples, you will get 3 points instead of 1 point for each road tile including the labyrinth itself. An incomplete labyrinth with an inn(s) at the end of the game is worth 0 points and does not receive the Wainwrights Quarter bonus.
* '''Case 6 - German Cathedrals + The Markets of Leipzig:''' If a labyrinth is completed and one or more of its roads end at a German Cathedral and you also have a meeple on the Wainwrights Quarter, and you have the majority of meeples, you will get 3 points instead of 1 point for each road tile including the labyrinth itself. An incomplete labyrinth with one or more of its roads ending at a German Cathedral at the end of the game is worth 1 points for each tile including the labyrinth itself and does not receive the Wainwrights Quarter bonus.
* '''Case 7 - Inns & Cathedrals + German Cathedrals + The Markets of Leipzig:''' If a labyrinth is completed and contains one or more inns and one or more of its roads end at a German Cathedral and you also have a meeple on the Wainwrights Quarter, and you have the majority of meeples, you will get 4 points instead of 1 point for each road tile including the labyrinth itself. An incomplete labyrinth with an inn(s) at the end of the game is worth 0 points and does not receive the Wainwrights Quarter bonus.
 
The following table describes the same information in a more schematic way:
 
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! width="50" rowspan="2" | Scenario || width="15" | Regular Labyrinth || width="15%" | Inns and Cathedrals || width="15%" | German Cathedrals || width="15%" | Markets Of Leipzig || width="100" | Scoring a feature || width="100" | Final scoring
|-
! No other expansions involved || There are one or more inns on its roads (inns do not stack) || One or more of its roads end up at a German Cathedral (German cathedrals do not stack) || You have a meeple on the Wainwrights Quarter || You have meeple majority of the completed labyrinth|| You have meeple majority of the incomplete labyrinth
|- style="text-align: center;"
| colspan="7" bgcolor="#cccccc" | '''Points from road tiles including the labyrinth'''
|- style="text-align: center;"
| '''Case 0''' || X || || ||  || 1 point/tile || 1 point/tile
|- style="text-align: center;"
| '''Case 1''' || || X || ||  || 2 point/tile || 0 point/tile
|- style="text-align: center;"
| '''Case 2''' || || || X ||  || 2 point/tile || 1 point/tile (*)
|- style="text-align: center;"
| '''Case 3''' || || ||  || X || 2 point/tile || 1 point/tile
|- style="text-align: center;"
| '''Case 4''' || || X || X || || 3 point/tile || 0 point/tile
|- style="text-align: center;"
| '''Case 5''' || || X || || X || 3 point/tile || 0 point/tile
|- style="text-align: center;"
| '''Case 6''' || || || X || X || 3 point/tile || 1 point/tile (*)
|- style="text-align: center;"
| '''Case 7''' || || X || X || X || 4 point/tile || 0 point/tile
|- style="text-align: center;"
| colspan="7" bgcolor="#cccccc" | '''Points from meeples placed on road tiles and the labyrinth'''
|- style="text-align: center;"
| '''All cases''' || Any || Any || Any || Any || 2 point/meeple || 0 point/meeple
|}
 
'''(*) NOTE:''' According to the German Cathedrals' rules, this should (1 point/tile) times #meeple on the road. To be confirmed.
 
--[[User:Meepledrone|Meepledrone]] ([[User talk:Meepledrone|talk]]) 12:26, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 
 
Updated with extended information
 
--[[User:Meepledrone|Meepledrone]] ([[User talk:Meepledrone|talk]]) 20:48, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 
== One or two pages ==
 
The current page mixes of images with C1 and C2 artwork, covering tiles and examples. Should we split the page into two?
 
--[[User:Meepledrone|Meepledrone]] ([[User talk:Meepledrone|talk]]) 12:26, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 
 
I'm OK with the two being on the same page, so long as both editions link to it.
 
--[[User:Wolnic|Wolnic]] ([[User talk:Wolnic|talk]]) 15:14, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 
== The Labyrinth and magic portals ==
 
Additionally, can you place a follower on the labyrinth/linked roads through a Magic Portal? I would assume, yes.  
 
--[[User:Wolnic|Wolnic]] ([[User talk:Wolnic|talk]]) 15:14, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 
 
I forgot to add the magic portal. I knew I was missing something. Corrected.
 
--[[User:Meepledrone|Meepledrone]] ([[User talk:Meepledrone|talk]]) 20:48, 14 October 2018 (UTC)